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Hurcule Satan V King Chappa; A Martial-Artist Dream Match
Topic Started: Aug 5 2014, 11:52 PM (2,266 Views)
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So what do you all reckon? I think it would be a great fight! Two humans with Strength over power, World Champions of their own time and martial arts masters, it would be a pretty close fight I'd say!

I'm backing Hurcule! He hasn't got the techniques but I reckon his brute strength could get the job done. He'd have a hard time catching Chappa though, but I think he'd do it.

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King Chappa wins really easily. Dragon Ball fighters were on an entirely different level to real life, while Dragon Ball Z human fighters are much more realistic
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Depends, we adding Anime Feats? If so then Hercule can do High Speed Movement, has Super Strength and other things that may be able to put him somewhere near Chappa. Of course, I barely remember Chappa doing anything interesting in DB so I may be a bit biased here. Edge to Chappa I guess on hype?
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Yeah but that being said, Chappa was a bit of a realistic fighter himself. People with realistic fighting styles were targeted by King Piccolo and killed by Tambourine. So lets call Tambourine the line in the sand between normal fighters and powerful fighters, that puts Chappa on the other side of the fence. I'd hardly say Chappa would win easily, it's just the fights with Chappa were over dramatised because the concept of real power hadn't been quite established yet. It would be a close one I say!
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Aug 5 2014, 11:59 PM
Yeah but that being said, Chappa was a bit of a realistic fighter himself. People with realistic fighting styles were targeted by King Piccolo and killed by Tambourine. So lets call Tambourine the line in the sand between normal fighters and powerful fighters, that puts Chappa on the other side of the fence. I'd hardly say Chappa would win easily, it's just the fights with Chappa were over dramatised because the concept of real power hadn't been quite established yet. It would be a close one I say!
Tambourine was about to go kill Yamcha before Piccolo told him to go after Goku instead.
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Hmm... but Nam fell into that Super Human category with his ability to leap into the stratosphere and drop Goku like a ton of bricks. And then land softly. So I'd say, depending on who would win in a fight against NAM would be the winner.
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Yeah but that being said, Chappa was a bit of a realistic fighter himself. People with realistic fighting styles were targeted by King Piccolo and killed by Tambourine. So lets call Tambourine the line in the sand between normal fighters and powerful fighters, that puts Chappa on the other side of the fence. I'd hardly say Chappa would win easily, it's just the fights with Chappa were over dramatised because the concept of real power hadn't been quite established yet. It would be a close one I say!
Tambourine was about to go kill Yamcha before Piccolo told him to go after Goku instead.
Yamcha was injured don't forget!
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One more thing to remember, Hurcule has proved on many occasions he can take some pretty hard hits. His endurance is beyond normality!
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That is a thing to consider, but it's got to be within reason. Videl took hits from Broly, but "durability" isn't necessarily relative to power keep in mind. We do end up with outlier gag scenes sometimes, which are debatable within of themselves.
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Still, it is a thing to consider. My opinion doesn't sway either way. I'd say it would be Hurcule in a close one! Could still go either way. We should get screw attack to make it a death battle =p get some maths involved!
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Mister Satan is around a UFC fighter regarding strength and martial-arts prowess, in my opinion. He doesn't have strength that's beyond normality. Super strength capable of pulling buses does not appear in the manga.
He's comparable to Bob Sapp, who's a professional martial artist and grappler, just like Mister Satan.
Satan's only won the Tenkaichi Budoukai once on his own.

Anyway, King Chappa would defeat Satan easily. Satan wouldn't be able to touch Chappa, just like Chappa can go through a Tenkaichi Budoukai (pre Turtle and Crane rivalry) without getting touched by a single opponent.
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Aug 6 2014, 12:23 AM
Mister Satan is around a UFC fighter regarding strength and martial-arts prowess, in my opinion. He doesn't have strength that's beyond normality. Super strength capable of pulling buses does not appear in the manga.
He's comparable to Bob Sapp, who's a professional martial artist and grappler, just like Mister Satan.
Satan's only won the Tenkaichi Budoukai once on his own.

Anyway, King Chappa would defeat Satan easily. Satan wouldn't be able to touch Chappa, just like Chappa can go through a Tenkaichi Budoukai (pre Turtle and Crane rivalry) without getting touched by a single opponent.
Satan pretty much did the same thing though! In the gap between the dragon ball tournaments and the DBZ tournaments he managed to win, like you said, all on his own, and with such a gap in strength that he was considered by a land-slide to be the world's strongest man. You'd figure if the un-knowing world wanted a sure win over Cell, and considering the fact Satan has everyone convinced Goku won the tournament by using tricks, they would have asked Chappa to fight as well!

Considering a twist to that may be the fact Chappa is simply too old, compare the stats of the two fighters in their prime and you have a close fight!
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All of Mark's durability feats are gags.

Chapa-o was remarked to being a great fighter, and won a Budokai in a time where there were stronger human fighters on average.
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Well, it makes you wonder if any of the super humans from previous tournaments fought in Hercule's world tournaments
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Aug 6 2014, 12:36 AM
All of Mark's durability feats are gags.

Chapa-o was remarked to being a great fighter, and won a Budokai in a time where there were stronger human fighters on average.
Hurcule is a stronger fighter than a human though, so really you're backing him up! If he's so much stronger than the average human fighter, there's no reason to think he would stand little chance against someone who has proven the same thing! Two powerless fighters, but stronger and faster than the average going toe to toe, there's no premise to say Hurcule would stand no chance.

I'm aware this discussion is kinda going in circles. I dunno, maybe I'm bias because I never really rated Chappa to begin with. He didn't really win many fights after Goku took him out so he was always a C grade character in my eyes.
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